Wow, well what do you know? Penn State got jumped by Texas Tech...the BCS always comes through and keeps itself as the king of all bull (explicit).
Do you remember the 1994 season? Penn State went undefeated, completely demolishing every team in its path. Powerhouses, great teams, good teams, and bad teams all fell at the mighty feet of Penn State.
Penn State, however, was robbed of the National Championship that year. They were sent to the Rose Bowl, where they completely demolished Oregon. In the National Title game, Nebraska won by one point.
Not only did Penn State get robbed, they didn't even get a split of the National Title. Wow! What a disgrace! They system was hating on Penn State, and it looks like another 1994 all over again!
Texas Tech beat the previously ranked No. 1 Longhorns on a last second TD, and they jumped ahead of probably the best team in the Nation. Penn State had a bye week, and were punished for it.
Even though Penn State was ranked No. 2 in both the Coaches' and Harris Polls, they ended up at No. 3 in the BCS standings. Why? Computers!
Computer polls and the AP media (biased bull) polls put Texas Tech as No. 2. However, the AP poll does not count towards the BCS rankings. Its strange how one-third of the polling can propel a team that was voted No. 3 in the other two-thirds of the polling into the No. 2 spot in the overall standings. It technically shouldn't happen.
But did it happen? Yes! Was there a malfunction? Did something go wrong? Was there a typo? Who knows? Something must have went wrong. When two-thirds of what is counted in the BCS standings votes PSU as No. 2, and the other third votes for Texas Tech as No. 2, then clearly PSU should be No. 2. The last time I checked, two-thirds is greater than one-third.
Hey, maybe basic mathematics changed. Maybe one-third is now greater than two-thirds because really, that would be the only logical explanation on how Penn State could have been jumped by Texas Tech in the BCS rankings this week.
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2 months ago
I was just as baffled, man. Honestly, I am at a loss for words. What a bunch of garbage ... I was beyond furious.
from 2 months ago
Its not even possible, based on the fact about how 2/3 of the polling that is used to determine the BCS rankings put PSU as #2! Can anyone explain that to me? Its just total BS, and the system is hating on us...again!
2 months ago
Tech past PSU because they had a big lead over them in the computers - and even thouse PSU was ranked ahead of Tech in the Coach and Harris - it was only by a few points.
from 2 months ago
Still complete bull. The computers are stupid machines. They are bull! They don't understand anything but formulas and numbers, they shouldn't be involved in things this important!
2 months ago
True. Or maybe they aren't taking tradition/JoePa bias into consideration the way the coaches and harris poll voters are. Bias works both ways. Tech was ranked ahead of Penn State in every poll before the season started. I wouldn't worry about it right now. All you can do is win and let everything else work itself out. It only the beginning over November. Still a month of a football left. Just enjoy it!
2 months ago
What I don't understand is how Penn State got punished for it's supposedly weak non-conference schedule when Texas Tech had not one but 2 Div 1AA schools scheduled! Penn State actually played 2 teams from BCS Conferences, Oregon State being the signature win, while Tech played an absoulute joke of a non-conference slate of Nevada, Eastern Washington, Massachusetts, and SMU. How can this translate into a better strength of schedule? And look at who they played before Texas: A&M is a joke, Nebraska and K-State are both cellar dwellers. How is this any different than Illinois, Wisconsin, Purdue, Michigan? Penn State and the entire Big Ten is being punished by Ohio State's ineptness in big games.
from 2 months ago
I know, and its total BS. Everyone says the Big 10 plays cupcakes, but all other conferences play more cupcakes and more Division 2 teams than the Big 10. Bama played Arkansas State in November! People just hate the Big 10, but really, they are the ones with weak conferences!
from 2 months ago
Tech jumped over Penn State because they beat Texas, whose computer rankings were out of this world. That's why Texas only fell to number 4. If Penn State can win out, which they should, then there is no issue here. They will play for a national title if they take care of business. I wouldn't be too worried as a PSU fan, because Tech will get stomped by Oklahoma in Norman, and maybe even by Okie State in Lubbock. This of course opens the door again for my Longhorns, but if Penn State and Bama remain undefeated, we've got ourselves a NC match-up. I won't speculate too much, but I have a feeling that the BCS top five will suffer another shake-up in the next few weeks.
No worries here, and congrats to Tech on the win. Wouldn't want my Longhorns to lose any other way.
from 2 months ago
The computer polls clearly just suck. If we get jumped by a one-loss team because of the computer polls, which have a one-loss team ahead of us, then I will break those computers.
2 months ago
Isaac,
We all know you are a huge Penn State fan...but you need to relax!!!!
There is still a lot of football to play. You just need to worry about Penn State making it through their schedule. You can complain all you want but it isn't going to change anything. If Penn State loses one game its over. Worry about Iowa and let the polls figure themselves out.
Like I said before...Penn State is sitting pretty and I'm sure Joe Pa knows this. He has Penn State right where he wants them.
Texas Tech still has Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, and potentially the Big XII CG.
Alabama has LSU and potentially the SEC CG against Florida probably.
I wholeheartedly believe Texas Tech and/or Alabama will lose a game.
But that won't mean a thing if Penn State doesn't focus on Iowa and the rest of their schedule.
All you have to do is remember last year and that should bring you some comfort. The #1 and #2 teams in the nation lost their last game and allowed Ohio State and LSU to slide into the NCG.
from 2 months ago
I know they will lose, but it is a disgrace that they jump TTU 5 spots and over an undefeated team that didn't even get a chance to play. Its unfair and total bull. It used to be that if you beat a No. 1 team you would move up 2 or 3 spots, but this year it is an automatic move to No. 1 or No. 2. I'm surprised that Oregon State didn't move up 30 spots to No. 1 when they beat USC! HAH!!! I guarantee that if Oklahoma State is undefeated going into the bye that we will not jump them in their bye, even though that's the BS excuse that everyone is using for justifying PSU as No. 3 this week. Also, 2/3 of the polls that count for the BCS have PSU as No. 2, compared to 1/3 for TTU. So how is it even possible that TTU is No. 2 and PSU No. 3? 2/3>1/3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
from 2 months ago
Isaac,
Last week in your poll you had Penn State jump over Texas to claim the #1 spot even though Texas beat a better team in then undefeated Oklahoma State.
So you asked, "So how is it even possible that TTU is No. 2 and PSU No. 3? 2/3>1/3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
In response to your question...I have to ask you...How is it even possible that you had #2 PSU jump #1 Texas when #1 Texas beat #6 Oklahoma State and #2 PSU beat #9 Ohio State?
A lot of people called your stance on PSU being #1 as BS.
It seems to me you are being a little hypocritical.
from 2 months ago
The difference between mine is that Texas and PSU got similar points, PSU just got one bonus point for beating OSU at the 'Shoe, where OSU has only lost 4 times, (including to us) in the past 8 years. Texas won at home.
The real BCS rankings have 2/3 of the vote as PSU being No. 2, so therefore they should clearly be No. 2, as 2/3>1/3, and it would be impossible to put TTU ahead of PSU. Another thing, regardless of my rankings or not, the real rankings with their "formula" have something wrong with them, unless somehow the final rankings got put into a formula that calculates 1/3 as being greater than 2/3. I don't think I'm being hypocritical, as I have reasons, legit reasons, for putting PSU ahead of Texas.
Texas lost anyway, so it doesn't matter, but there is no legit reason to put TTU ahead of PSU!
from 2 months ago
Maybe now you know how it feels in reality when people were bitching about you placing Penn State ahead of Texas in your rankings last week. Don't apply a double standard just because you felt like you got cheated.
from 2 months ago
Just look at the Presidential elections Isaac...yes it has nothing to do with college football but it can explain why you can have 2/3 of the second place votes but still come out as the 3rd ranked team.
The last two elections, President Bush lost the overall popular vote (Most of the nation voted against Bush) but he still won the election.
You can get 2/3 of the votes but still not be ranked 2nd.
The Harris and USA Today polls ranked PSU #2 and Texas Tech #3. BUT, the computers ranked PSU #4 and Texas Tech #1....therefore, Texas Tech gets the jump over PSU. Go to ESPN.com...it explains it all.
And lets get this out there.....the computers are COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY....unbiased! They don't care who PSU is or that Joe Pa is there coach and he is 80+ years old. They just look at SOS and wins. You can't blame them.
from 2 months ago
Kent, how the hell is PSU ranked #4 in the cpus? They are undefeated and from a major conference!
Vincent, if you read what I said, I have a legit reason for putting PSU just ahead of Texas. Oh, and Texas lost anyway, idiot! There's a difference between a computer putting PSU at #4 for no good reason and me putting PSU just ahead of Texas, who lost anyway, for a good reason!
from 2 months ago
So Isaac...how would you change the BCS system then? Do you want BIASED voters or UNBIASED computers? Last week weren't you complaining about how voters were biased towards certain teams and how they didn't vote PSU as #1 or #2. Now you are complaining that the UNBIASED computers have left you out in the cold while the BIASED voters have PSU at #2.
So what would you change? How does the BCS get it wrong? One week you hate the BIASED voters and the next week you love them. You are flip-flopping.
And your reason for putting PSU over Texas last week was not a good one at all. It was a complete homer reason. no offense.
from 2 months ago
I would suggest that a ONE-LOSS team does not jump an UNDEFEATED team from a MAJOR CONFERENCE in the COMPUTER polls!!! Also, my reason was not a homer reason, and I'm sure if it was the other way around all the Texas fans would say that they deserve #1 because of a win against a Top 10 team on the road, where that Top 10 team rarely loses.
I hate the AP voters because they base their polls off of watching 2 games a week and looking at highlights. They shouldn't be involved, their CONGENIAL IDIOTS!!! The media sucks! I am for the Coaches and Harris poll because they know what they are talking about, and they actually watch games and make good rankings that aren't based off of highlights. I've always hated computers, also.
from 2 months ago
they're, not their (referring to the media being idiots).
from 2 months ago
But the AP poll doesn't factor into the BCS poll. Only the Coaches and the Harris.
So I'll ask you again...how would you change the BCS format?
And let me ask you this...Lets say Texas Tech had played a bunch of unranked, cupcake teams and went 9-0. Then lets say PSU played a bunch of ranked teams with good athletes and ended up going 8-1. So you would be okay with the computers ranking Texas Tech ahead of PSU, even though PSU played FAR superior teams but ended up losing a close game to one of them?
What if the BCS Polls had PSU #1....would you still be screaming bloody murder for change and calling the BCS a bunch of BS?
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
from 2 months ago
And what if Texas and Alabama had a bye week and Penn State went out and played a highly ranked team and won.........would you be alright with Penn State not moving up in the polls because Alabama and Texas didn't get a chance to prove themselves?
from 2 months ago
The thing is, TTU hasn't played a bunch of ranked teams. They played cupcakes, then a very overrated Kansas team, then they beat Texas at home. Lets look at it this way. Kansas is overrated, and they beat a bunch of nobodys. They were like No. 20 when TTU dismantled them. Wisconsin played a bunch of nobodys and then we went to Wisconsin and dismantled them. We both played great teams in Ohio State and Texas, but Ohio State was a road game, and Ohio State rarely loses at home.
Second, I told you how I would change the BCS in my first paragraph. If you didn't read it, then here it is:
I would suggest that a ONE-LOSS team does not jump an UNDEFEATED team from a MAJOR CONFERENCE in the COMPUTER polls!!! Also, my reason was not a homer reason, and I'm sure if it was the other way around all the Texas fans would say that they deserve #1 because of a win against a Top 10 team on the road, where that Top 10 team rarely loses.
If PSU was #1, then I wouldn't be screaming because that is where PSU deserves to be, or at #2. Then the BCS would have made a good decision, as they do every other year when teams win and lose. Undefeated teams right below the #1 team move up, and the #7 or #8 team that upset the #1 team moves up to #4 or #3. Anyway, about your second comment, I would be a little mad, but I would be fine with it and understand the reasoning why PSU didn't move up to #2.
from 2 months ago
Isaac,
Again you are flip-flopping your stance from week to week.
Last week you had Penn State jump and undefeated Texas team but NOW you are saying that undefeated teams shouldn't be jumped. You were totally fine with PSU jumping Texas but now that Texas Tech jumped PSU you are screaming "FOUL!"
And it seems to me that you would love the BCS if it had PSU #1. You would be writing articles about how great the BCS is and how a playoff system wouldn't work. But since they don't have PSU #1, you find it to be a joke of a system. So you only like something as long as it benefits your agenda. As soon as it doesn't, you kick it to the curb.
And you didn't answer my main question (all I need is a yes or no answer)...Lets say Texas Tech had played a bunch of unranked, cupcake teams and went 9-0. Then lets say PSU played a bunch of ranked teams and ended up going 8-1. You would be okay with the computers ranking Texas Tech ahead of PSU (remember...according to you, a one-loss team should not be ranked higher than an unranked team from a BCS conference), even though PSU played FAR superior teams but ended up losing a close game to one of them? Yes or no?
from 2 months ago
I said I would be fine with it, but a little mad.
2 months ago
Isaac, I agree that while Penn State looks great. Theres a major roadblock in their way to the national championship game. That roadblock is Ohio State. Why? Because in the last 2 previous National championship games OSU has been humilated at the hands of the SEC. That gives the entire Big 10 a negative rep. Penn State maybe national championship material but one thing playing Texas Tech's favor on SOS is that look at the big 12. Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Missouri, all ranked in the top ten at some point in the season.
Alabama, Penn State, and Texas Tech all the only remaining BSC unbeatens, Im going to say Alabama falls to Florida in the SEC championship game goes to the Sugar Bowl, Texas Tech loses somewhere because just like Texas playing that many high caliber teams your bound to have an off day. That lives more than likely Florida and Penn State as numero uno and dos.
from 2 months ago
That's what I think is going to happen as well. I even said that in my article about UF vs. PSU in the Championship game. I just think its ridiculous that TTU jumps 5 spots and 1 undefeated team in a week, especially when that undefeated team has a bye and didn't get a chance to prove that they deserve the No. 2 spot.
2 months ago
Taking the computers out of it most people argree that PSU is not better than Bama, TT, or Florida.
You mention that TT has played two division 2 schools but guess what. . . even then they still have a stronger SOS then PSU. That just goes to show how weak PSU schedule is. So do yourself a favor and stop saying TT has played two division 2 teams b/c you are just insulting your own team.
Face it, most people think PSU isn't one of the two best teams in the country.
from 2 months ago
Actually Michael, the Coaches and the Harris polls have PSU at #2. Its the computers that have PSU at #4.
from 2 months ago
Texas Tech is overrated and they suck! Yeah, I guess beating Top 10 Ohio State at Ohio State, where Ohio State has lost 4 games in the past 8 years isn't good. I guess crushing an Oregon State team who beat USC and could easily go to the Rose Bowl is not good. But apparently, beating an overrated Kansas team is. Beating a Top 10 team at home is more impressive than beating a Top 10 team on the road...never knew that. Sorry beating teams like Baylor is more impressive than beating good teams...I must be crazy. Do me a favor, shut up. Seriously...you make no sense and you don't even have your facts straight. Pathetic.
2 months ago
when i saw this article title i knew issac wrote it! automatically!lol strange how so many many people agree that sos is important like myself but as a penn state HOMEY ISSAC is biased as can be. no logic or understanding just oh were getting rippied off or the ratings suck or penn state is the greatest team in the history of colegiate football. Enough! you better hope tech loses a game o ther wise 2 teams will rank higher than Penn State. Florida and Texas Tech. if texas tech gets a loss coupled with florida state running the table , ISSAC will get his day in court as they should play for the title being from a major conference, snuffing wisconsin and ohip state in their own lairs, and being undefeated, But be careful what you wish for, Florida will embarrass Penn State in a bowl game! take a poll 90 out of 100 at least would tell you Florida is worlds better than any team in the Big 10 That includes mIGHTY PENN STATE. issac has no objectivity in this argument. It s all about Penn State. we surely need a play-off system to disspell all this who s better than who talk! Big 10 needs at least a championship game for the conference to even out the free ride the big 10 gets every year! thomas
from 2 months ago
This is starting to get boring. I know you are trying to joke with me and get me upset, but all you do is say the same thing. Its just not fun anymore. I don't want to waste my time arguing with you.
2 months ago
don t you have some homework to do or something? thomas why are you not in school? i say the same thing as a lot of people. your out of touch with reality! what choo smokin kid?
from 2 months ago
I am in school. Study hall right now, but I don't care about school...its easy. I don't smoke, if I did I would die cause I have asthma. Don't you have work to do? I do my hw after school, it takes like an hour or so...high school is a joke. Also, STALKER!!! lol.
2 months ago
What do you care what the BCS says this week? If Texas Tech wins the rest of their games, they deserve to be ahead of PSU. If they don't, PSU will jump them. It doesn't matter. Simmer down.
from 2 months ago
You're probably right. I'm just trying to make a point.
2 months ago
But your point sucks because you are biased and nobody takes you seriously because you are 15. No why don't you and your PSU friends go outside and enjoy 3rd. Also, you just lost all crediability because you said the SEC is a weak conference and the Big 10 isn't.
from 2 months ago
Actually, I didn't say that. You are making assumptions out of what I am saying and you are completely incorrect. I know the Big 10 isn't great this year, but they don't suck. PSU could play with UF and Bama, and win those games. Also, just because I'm 15 doesn't make people not take me seriously. You just want to use that to get me down because I am smarter than you and you are pissed. There are many young writers on this site, and you being outmatched are very upset. Everyone is biased, lets face it. Also, please learn how to spell "crediability" correctly. Its: credibility. If anything, no one takes you seriously. If you don't take me seriously, then don't comment on my articles. Just go home and cry.
from 2 months ago
Oh, I see, you are a SEC homer. That's why you are upset! HAH!
2 months ago
of course heres another mad fan who cant give credit where its due Texas Tech beat the number one team in the country and to be honest i personally think penn should be number 1 so u should try against alabama
from 2 months ago
Texas Tech shouldn't be jumping 5 spots! When teams beat #1 teams in the past, they wouldn't jump 5 spots and an undefeated team, they would jump 2 or 3 spots and would never jump another undefeated team from a major conference.
from 2 months ago
so what about when oregon state beat usc u gonna tell me they didnt jump a shitload of spots (even though they werent ranked)
from 2 months ago
I was surprised Oregon State didn't jump to #1 or #2 the way that this BCS bs works. Next thing you know, LSU will be #1 after this weekend if they beat Bama. Its such bull. Oregon State almost got into the Top 25, and they're not good at all. Beating #1 is way overrated this year. Last year, if you beat #1 you maybe jumped 3 spots, this year, its almost an automatic #1 or #2 bid. Must've been a change in the BS computers.
2 months ago
of course heres another mad fan who cant give credit where its due Texas Tech beat the number one team in the country and to be honest i personally think penn should be number 1 so u should try against alabama
2 months ago
isacc,
i have read and read your comments over the past few months. PSU suxks, 'Bama would take them to the house. Alabama got jumped by Texas when they beat OU, so stop complaining. Just because your little PSU team might win out doesn't make it right for you to go all holy crusade on us about how complete they are and why they should be #1. Give me a list of playmakers all over the field and compare them to these:
ALABAMA
O-line- Andre Smith, Antione Caldwell
Recievers- Julio Jones, Nikita Stover, Marquis Maze, Travis McCall, Nick Walker
Backs- Glenn Coffee, Roy Upchurch, Mark Ingram, Kerry Grant
QB- JP Wilson
D-line- Josh Chapman, Terrence Cody, Bobby Greenwood
Linebackers-Don'ta Hightower, Rashad Johnson
Defensive Backs- Javier Arenas, , Ali Sharief, Travis Woodall
Now make a list of PSU playmakers and compare stats.
PSU SUCKS! GET OVER IT!
from 2 months ago
Thank you anonymous. Although you clearly know nothing, and PSU's defensive line is one of the best in the Nation at stopping the run, and DE Aaron Maybin leads the Nation in sacks, and we are Linebacker U, I appreciate your attempt to look like you know what you are talking about. Although we have a great trio of senior receivers Derrick Williams, Deon Butler, and Jordan Norwood that every coach spends the whole week trying to figure out how to stop. We have a truck running back Evan Royster who NFL scouts have already proclaimed as a 1st round draft pick, and a speed demon Stephon Green. Your QB is a joke, he is like Wisconsin's Alan Evridge who cannot pass. We have Daryll Clark, a mobile QB who can pass, and who has similar stats, (actually better) than those of Tim Tebow. Our backup is 5 star recruit Pat Devlin, who is smart and has a golden boy arm. The one place where we are mediocre would be our secondary, so you beat us there. We have an amazing O-line made up of 4 seniors and 1 junior, all of which are great, but they are lead by center A. Q. Shipley. We would destroy Bama, and you can call me anything you want but our defensive strengths are your offensive strengths and our offensive strengths are your defense's weaknesses. If you want to curse me out, that is fine, but its not a good way to handle yourself just because you know that what I say is true, but you will probably dismiss it and call me a homer, just to cover yourself up because you know you got schooled.
from 2 months ago
I don't think the average football fan has knowledge of any of the Alabama players you just mentioned... But I bet they have knowledge of some PSU players
from 2 months ago
You said PSU sucks? You think Alabama is good? Alabama is GARBAGE!! They almost lost to garbage teams at home!! They dont even come close to deserve to be #1!!
from about 1 month ago
Look who's saying I told you so. Iowa? Yeah their undefeated but still. Now I'm the one laughing. Good luck in your bowl game.
from about 1 month ago
I'll be laughing when UF crushed Bama in the SEC Championship.
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