Sorry David, but catching the ball on your head in the Super Bowl in the most desperate of situations isn’t enough to keep your roster spot.
Yeah, I said it. And at some time this season, the Giants should, too.
But what exactly has he done in the last 10 months to warrant this action? Nothing. Except doing nothing on this Giants team is enough to lose your job. Just ask Lawrence Tynes, who had surgery on his knee in preseason and has watched Carney make every single attempt in the first four games. After booting the field goal that catapulted the G-Men to Arizona, now Tynes finds his job in minor jeopardy.
While Tyree’s knee was slowly healing from arthroscopic surgery, Domenik Hixon has proven himself to be a legitimate receiver, and Sinorice Moss slightly vindicated the second-round choice the Giants spent on him in 2006 with two touchdowns against Seattle. Mario Manningham was drafted as a project in the third round this past season; there’s no way he’s getting cut.
So where does that leave David Tyree? The special-teams ace gave the Giants four terrific seasons, including a Pro Bowl campaign that helped their kick and punt coverage be tops in the league annually.
Then he partakes in the greatest play in a game that still has New York in a frenzy. It really isn’t fair at all that he shouldn't be wearing blue anymore.
But that’s the NFL. While it would be a bad twist in Tyree’s life, he should be grateful he had the opportunity to be on the field that fateful night. After his rookie season, he was arrested for dealing marijuana, and for most of his life he frequently used drugs and drank.
The Giants stuck with him though, despite being a sixth-round pick, and they were rewarded for their faith. So was Tyree for placing his faith in God, which he claims played a key role in turning his life around. Even after a disastrous practice two days before the Super Bowl, the Giants continued to instill Tyree into their gameplan.
One touchdown and one miracle later, it’s time for the Giants to acknowledge that the reward gauge from Tyree has hit zero.
Hixon can be as effective on special teams as Tyree is and is much more talented as a receiver. Whenever he’s seen the field, he’s made an impact. The same guy who got cut by the Broncos in October is proving himself to be more than just an adequate special-teamer.
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about 1 month ago
You got a lot of guts dude. IDK myself. Timmy Smith was on the Redskins with Doug Williams and he started in the Super Bowl because the starter was hurt. He set a Super Bowl rushing record. And he was a bust. I think he is still in prison for drug convictions.
Tyree could be the same thing too. I think New York should give him one more year, but if he keeps getting hurt, then he needs to go elsewhere. You got to do more than two plays to be a kept player.
about 1 month ago
Well it's not like they're carrying all that many WRs on the roster, six is pretty normal around the NFL. The question for this season is why would they cut him? Has he been active on most game days?
Is there a need to carry additional depth at another position? I would agree that he's likely on his way out considering how Moss is playing, I was pleasantly surprised that he seems to have finally some steps forward (rooting for him based on connections donchaknow?), but for now, it seems he should be safe.
What position should be added to David? That's what I would wonder about.
Nice read though, Tyree, gone already, oh how the mighty can fall!
from about 1 month ago
The thing is that Tyree isn't on the active roster. He's been on PUP for the first month and a half and in order to get him on the active roster we have to let someone go.
Our wide receivers are playing so exceptional right now that there's no need for an extra body to deplete another positition.
I should've mentioned that in my article, that's an important factor.
about 1 month ago
Tyree is recovering from off-season surgery. The Giants will have a decision to make soon, whether or not to activate him or shut him down for the year by placing him on IR. There is absolutely no reason to cut him at all.
from about 1 month ago
He could file a grievance against the Giants if we IR him while he is healthy. Remember Will Demps? We IRed him when it was a 3 week injury and he wound up being cut. Same thing would happen to Tyree, unless he'd be a cool customer and be willing to try his chances in 09 to make the squad.
That would be nice of him and all, but I doubt that happens.
from about 1 month ago
I kind of agree here -- is there a need to decide this right now? I think the decision is more whether to put him on the active roster than it is whether to cut him. I haven't heard anyone say he's healthy enough to play just yet.
But if he IS healthy enough, AND he can still cover punts like Steve Tasker on steroids, then you have to keep him. Put Danny Ware on the practice squad, he's not playing this year anyway, and let Tyree suit up. Not because of history but because he's a pro bowl punt cover guy.
from about 1 month ago
They've got Ware's spot plus they're carrying two kickers, even if there were an immediate decision to make, there is room to consider keeping him.
As a guy who lives in Bills territory, I've hear the Tasker comparison. Both Tasker and Phil McConkey actually. All are guys you look to replace every year, they have to play themselves onto the roster.
To David's point, the Giants may have found a guy to replace Tyree with in Hixon, but Tyree also brings punt blocking and coverage ability. The guy blocked kicks seemingly at will in college and there are few better coverage guys around.
I don't think Super Bowl heroics have much to do with it, but if he's healthy he'll definitely help the team.
from about 1 month ago
The Giants like Ware a lot, and next year he might be needed because Ward and Jacobs are pending free agents so one of the two are likely to sign elsewhere. That would leave Bradshaw and Jacobs/Ward.
Ware ran really well in pre-season, I don't think they can cut him.
It'll be one of the kickers. Carney seems to be a better kicker right now than Tynes but I just don't see him not being cut.
about 1 month ago
Fair enough. If the giants decide to let go of John Carney, then that would open up a spot for Tyree too.
The thing that worries me is he got this surgery wasn't supposed to be on that would keep him on the shelf this long. It was arthroscopic surgery I believe in late April. One that shouldn't go for 4-5 months.
about 1 month ago
And Osi, the decision does need to be now. He's on PUP and the giants had a 6 week window to active him, IR him, or release him. So a decision will be made within the next week or so.
about 1 month ago
I ABSOLUTELY CAN"T CUT HIM im sorry im sitting here looking at my framed Sports Illustrated framed cover of the greatest play in sports history and you know what he's injured, without his play in the Super Bowl they don't win... I know he is on the PUP list but when he is allowed to be active I just can't let him not be on the Giants... I might have to inactivate Mario Manningham or someone like that to free up a spot for Tyree, theyve gotta exercise corporate loyalty here... He is also a great influence in the locker room...
from about 1 month ago
I know how you feel Mike. I've got a triple 8X10 of the SB hanging over my computer too and one of them is Tyree's catch. Except your strategy with Manningham wouldn't work. He's usually inactive for every game but he's still on the 53. The only way to take him off the 53 is by releasing him which ain't happening.
My gut tells me the Giants agree with you Michael, and will cut Carney either by the Browns game or shortly after to free a spot for Tyree.
from about 1 month ago
to me I would cut Tynes... in his playoff career he has missed from 33 yards and 23 yards (with the chiefs in 06)... ya i know he hit the kick to send Big Blue to the Super Bowl but Carney is 12-12 why make a change?
from about 1 month ago
I'd be shocked if the Giants got rid of Tynes. Carney is kicking better than Tynes did at any point last year but he's 45, his kickoffs are short and low, and at least Tynes has a year of NY under his belt.
from about 1 month ago
They can't and shouldn't cut Tyree. They're better off cutting one of the kickers (preferably Tynes, I agree with Michael) or Ware, who still has Droughns as well as the big three ahead of him.
about 1 month ago
Just that one catch alone should earn him a one year stay. Automatic.
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